Let it be known that both Admiral Duncan's linage and Agnes Duncan's (Patrick Matthew's Mother ) linage - through Admiral Duncan's Uncle, George Duncan - parallel that of Admiral Adam Drummond of Megginch.
Megginch Castle and the Gourdiehill Manner both were once part of the Barony of Errol through Gilbert Hay and the Hays of Belhousie. The Duncan's and the Matthew's are both Hay descendants. Their two estates were connected by a shaded lane a little less that a half mile long each side of which were planted with selected trees planted by Admiral Drummond and his son John Drummond. Two of those trees are Patrick Matthew Redwoods that Patrick Matthew gave as living gifts to his Drummond Relatives, Adam and John Drummond; not only being a relative but a close friend for many years as well.
All three linages go directly back to Alexander Duncan the first of the Duncan Lairds of Lundie and the first of the three consecutive Provosts of the city of Dundee of the same name. Alexander Duncan the 3rd (Admiral Duncan's Father) was Provost of Dundee and his Brother George Duncan was once the city recorder as well. Anna Drummond was the Wife of Alexander Duncan the First and the Great Grandmother of both Alexander the 3rd and George Duncan. The Drummond connection just came about less than a fortnight ago as a result of chasing down Patrick Matthew Redwoods.
In March, Lady Catherine Drummond Herdman, the present heiress and owner of the Megginch Castle estate invited Dr. Sutton to her home and furthered the Drummond / Matthew connection. She told him about a trophy that has Patrick Matthew's name engraved along with the name of his teammate, John Drummond, which they won together in a hurling tournament.
Patrick Matthew was 14 when Admiral Duncan died and 17 when he inherited Gourdiehill from Admiral Duncan's estate. However Admiral Drummond was only 9 years older than Patrick Matthew and spent much of his time at his Megginch Castle estate less than a mile away from Gourdiehill in between campaign's and service in his Naval career. Admiral Drummond died in 1839 thus a 49 year window of influence opportunity for Patrick Matthew and Admiral Drummond to share their mutual "Forestry interests" and the importance of "Naval Timber" from a "second" member of the Admiralty, both with the likelihood of possibly having been also influenced by Admiral Duncan.
Moreover, the younger brother Gordon Drummond was a General in the Royal Army.
There is no doubt as to where Patrick Matthew received quite a collective knowledge of a wide variety of military subjects, which are very well proven and documented in both of his major publications - i.e. On Naval Timber and Arboriculture and also Immigration Fields.
The Lord's of Athal descended from the Lords Oliphant. Colin Drummond was married to Katherine Oliphant in similar relative relationship that Robert Duncan married to Christian Oliphant makes Patrick Matthew and Admiral Adam Duncan descendants of William Oliphant the Castle Keep of Sterling Castle at the time of William Wallace's victory over Edward Longshanks at Sterling Bridge.
Robert de Bruce' giving in marriage his daughter Elizabeth to William Oliphant's son makes the Drummond linage the same as the Duncan Linage - as Descendants of Robert de Bruce.
The following information is heavily dependent upon the findings revealled in Dr. Mary Young's 2004 thesis Rural Society in Scotland from the Restoration to the Union~~ Challenge and Response in the Carse of Gowrie, circa 1660-1707
Young's (2004) findings are crucial to add because it establishes that both Seasyde and Gourdiehill were owned by the Lairds of Lundie from the 1600's or even longer. It actually establishes the date of sale of Seasyde estate, which was the future Wad set Tenancy home of George Duncan, as having taken place in 1652, during a forced sale of properties owned by the Barony of Errol of which Gilbert Hay, who was a relative to the Duncan Lairds of Lundie was the then Earl of Errol. The sale was conducted by the Hay of Belhousie being the same Hay of Belhousie who was also a relative of the Duncan Lairds of Lundie of mention in Alexander Haitis Millar's 1890 book 'The Historic Castle's and Mansions of Scotland'.
Alexander Haitis Millar was the private publisher to Queen Victoria. It was he whom Patrick Matthew's oldest daughter Euphemia Matthew of Errol Park Cottage presented the recorded genealogy of the Lords Oliphant.
Notably, it was James Duncan, the son of Robert Duncan and Christian Oliphant, who at that time was the Chamberlain to the aforementioned Hay of Belhousie and it was he who copied and recorded the Lords Oliphant genelogy that was written on the inner walls of an archive room in Dupplin Castle.
Dupplin Castle was at that time owned and occupied by the Hay of Belhousie. In order to establish connection please note that Dupplin Castle was of critical note. Because it had previously been the historical home of the Lord's of Athol, which included the Lord's Oliphant and therin these facts trace the Matthew, Duncan, Hay. and Drummond linages back to Robert Oliphant, who was given Elizabeth de Bruce in marriage by her father Robert de Bruce. Robert Oliphant being the son of William Oliphant the Castle Keep of Stirling Castle at the time of Edward Longshanks siege of the castle at Stirling.
Shortly after surrendering to Edward's forces, William Oliphant was imprisoned in London. William Wallace however - because the siege took so long - was able to rally the clans and convince their leaders to rise up against Longshanks. And thus Wallace defeated Longshanks at the Castle bridge.
Robert de Bruce, after his victory over Longshanks at Bannock Burn, finally freed his friend and ally William Oliphant; and in appreciation for his loyalty at Stirling Castle during the siege he gave him title, deeds of land at Athol and his daughter Elizabeth to be the bride of Robert Oliphant.
Similar title and deeds were also given from this period of Robert De Bruce to the Duncan and Hays for similar acts of loyalty. This particular document is of great importance, for it is part of the archive known as GD316 in the records of Scotland and it was donated by Euphemia Matthew - after showing it to Alexander Haitis Millar - having been passed down from the family of Agnes Duncan the Mother of Patrick Matthew.
Mary Young's paper also establishes that both Seasyde and Gourdiehill passed directly from the 3 ( 1st, 2nd, & 3rd Duncan Lairds of Lundie ) by the name of Alexander Duncan - all of whom were also Provosts of the city of Dundee, with Alexander Duncan the 3rd being the father of Admiral Duncan and the brother to George Duncan. Young establishes also that George Duncan was the Wadset tenant of both Seasyde and Gourdiehill, along with a lesser known estate known as Auchmuir which I haven't found much on. What makes Dr. Young's paper so critically unique is that it establishes that on the death of his older brother, Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Duncan, Admiral Adam Duncan thus became the owner of Seasyde, Auchmuir and Gourdiehill until his death in 1804.
Patrick Matthew was 14 years old, almost 15, when Admiral Duncan passed away. Upon turning 17, Patrick Matthew - through his mother Agnes Duncan - inhereted the estate of Gourdiehill directly from the estate of Admiral Adam Duncan.
One more item of note. The Hay of Belhousie also owned at one time the estate of Belhouie Castle, as did his Hay ancestry own the Megginch Castle Estate and Seasyde and Gourdiehill before the Drummonds and the Duncan's and the Matthew's in particular of Gourdiehill. I would point out the tendency of the numerous properties to seemingly remain in familiar pattern of family ties.
Howard L. Minnick
Major, Corps of Engineers
United States Army (Ret.)
Botanist, Range Conservationist
& 3rd Great Grandson of Patrick Matthew
Portrait of Admiral Adam Drummond.
Published with kind permission of Catherine Drummond Herdman of Megginch Castle.
Photograph by Howard Minnick
Patrick Matthew's Great Grandfather Francis Duncan was the first cousin of Admiral Adam Duncan, the first Viscount Duncan of Camperdown.
In 1831, the Scottish laird, farmer, orchard owner, grain dealer and botanist, Patrick Matthew, authored 'On Naval Timber and Arboriculture.' Matthew's book is universally recognised as the first publication to contain the complete hypothesis of the theory of natural selection. New evidence proves that both Darwin and Wallace lied by pretending they had no prior-knowledge of it; both committed science fraud by plagiarising Matthew's discovery, his name for it, his examples of the process in nature compared to culture. They even ripped-off his unique creative perspective.
Alexander Duncan I
Alexander Duncan II George Duncan ( P.M.'s G.G.Grandfather)
Alexander Duncan III to
1st Viscount Admiral Adam Duncan Francis Duncan ( P.M."s G. Grandfather)
Alexander Duncan (P. M.'s Grandfather)
Agnes Duncan (Patrick Matthew's Mother)
(P.M.'s 5th son) James Matthew *** Alexander Matthew (P.M.'s 3rd Son)
Jones & Smith families The Minnick & Macy families
in New Zealand in the United States
The Gerdts family in Germany
The family tree, above, has been provided by the original research conducted by Major Howard Minnick US Army (retired) who is the third great grandson of Patrick Matthew. Dates forthcoming.
Alexander Hastie Millar. The Historical Castles and Mansions of Scotland: Perthshire and Forfarshire (here).
W. Gerdts.: ‘Die Matthew Saga 1 (1790 – 1918) and Die Matthew Saga 2 (1918-2003). Self published history of the Matthew family.
Alexander Elliot (1911) Lochee: as it was and as it Is. And a Series of Sketches Descriptive of Olden Time Vestiges in the Neighbourhood. James P. Mathew & Co.: Dundee, (See Chapter 9: The Duncans of Lundie and Camperdown).
Please note: This is the first definitive evidence that Patrick Matthew was related to the great British naval hero Viscount Admiral Duncan.
The dual themes and title of Patrick Matthew's (1831) book 'On Naval Timber and Arboriculture' was most likely influenced by his bloodline to Admiral Duncan.. As the opening words of Chapter One his book indicate...
... the importance of understanding the principle of natural selection with regards to where and how to grow the best naval timber was fully and originally understood by Matthew (1831) and then some others after they read and cited his book. Those others - such as Jameson (1853) of the East India Company (a regular correspondent of William Hooker, who (pre 1858) knew and met Darwin. Significantly, on the topic of likley pre-1858 Matthewian 'knowledge contamination' of the minds of Darwin and Wallace, William was the father of Darwin's best friend Joseph Hooker as well as being Wallace's pre-1855 mentor) - cited Matthew and wrote of his original ideas that timber could fare better in a non-natural environment if native species were kept at bay by human interference with nature before Darwin and Wallace replicated Matthew's original discoveries and explanatory examples without citation to their source. Jameson understood it perfectly. Alternately, Selby (1842), who sat on several scientific committees with Darwin, and was best friends with Darwin's great friend Jenyns and a friend of Darwin's father, the editor of the journal that published Wallace's 1855 Sarawak paper, read it also, but he wrote that he did not understand it.
Matthew's original ideas about the difference between trees grown in nurseries and those in the wild were replicated by both Darwin and Wallace. Darwin had the precise example in his private 1844 essay. Wallace replicated the same example in his Ternate paper of 1858 with Matthew's general original analogy of differences between natural and artificial selection. Darwin opened Chapter One of the Origin of Species with the exact same thing.
Once again the "real facts" are news to Darwin scholars, who have a 155 year long legacy of credulously maintaining Darwin's self-serving fallacy that Matthew's original ideas were unrelated to the title and related theme of his book. They write that fallacy in order, it seems, to underpin another, started by Darwin as a proven deliberate lie, that the original ideas in Matthew's book went unread until Matthew personally brought them to Darwin's attention in 1860. Of late, one influential propagator of all these ludicrous myths about the pre-1858 readership and influence of Matthew's book is Ricahrd Dawkins (2010) whose context and significant fact-free proclamations include the following line about Matthew's On Naval Timber and Arboriculture - a book he does not appear to be particualrly familier with:
‘Did he see the explanation for all of life, the destroyer of the argument for design? If he had, wouldn’t he have put it in a more prominent place than the appendix to a manual on silviculture?
In the real world of immortal great ideas,, Matthew' soriginal ideas were not merely contained in his book's Appendix. Matthew's (1860) letter to Darwin explained as much, and Darwin's (1860) private letter to Joseph Hooker acknowledged the truth. But Darwin. like his acolytes after him, pretended otherwise to successfully punterize the rest of the world in order to rob Matthew of his right to be considered an immortal great thinker and influencer in science.
Recent research by Howard Minnick (Major, ENGR, United States Army & 3rd Great Grandson of Patrick Matthew) - conveyed by private email correspondence - has uncovered further evidence to support the hypothesis that Patrick Matthew was a descendant of the great naval hero, the 1st Viscount Admiral Duncan.
Major Howard Minnick has detected some further published evidence in support of the long existing hypothesis that Patrick Matthew was related to Robert the Bruce as well as to Admiral Duncan (details are forthcoming).
Howard Minnick originally and most significantly notes that there was a window of opportunity of 14 years when Matthew (born 1790 died 1874) and Admiral Duncan (born 1731 died 1804) could have met. This is significant because, if proven, the Matthew and Duncan family line would further explain, in part, why Patrick Matthew included his original conception of natural selection in a book entitled On Naval Timber and Arboriculture (Matthew 1831) and why in the book's introduction pages he wrote about bio-social issues on class, aristocracy, law conquest, empire and social injustice related to the topic and, most significantly, why he went to pains to refer readers several times (via clear, bold footnotes) directly to his appendix to see how these precise issues tied in socially and politically with his unifying theory of biology: which is the first full, written anywhere, explanation of macroevolution by natural selection.
As the image of pages 2-4 of Matthew's (1831) book prove, that he very plainly and obviously, directs his readers to his book's appendix.
This fact, combined with the fact that his ideas on organic evolution by natural selection run throughout the book, disconfirms the widespread science myth that he buried his original ideas in the book's obscure appendix, where they were supposed to have remained unread until Matthew alerted Darwin to them in 1860. In reality, Matthew's original ideas on natural selection were read by at least seven naturalists, three of whom (Loudon, Chambers and Selby) played major roles at the epicentre of influence and facilitation of the pre-1858 and 1859 published work of Darwin/Wallace on natural selection. See Sutton 2017 for all the New Data details.
Tying in his ideas on society and politics with his original ideas on natural science - as Matthew did - was (as I explain in Nullius) against all the rules and conventions of the 19th century scientific community, and would explain why we newly know (to date: 13.01.2016) that only 25 individuals actually cited the book before Darwin's and Wallace's replicating papers were read before the Linnean Society in 1858, and Darwin's 'Origin of Species' (1859) was first published. Of course, it should pass without saying, 25 people and seven naturalists is significantly greater than "none" as Darwin and leading Darwin scholars claimed before my original 2014 discovery of the New Data.
From the Book: Eminent Burgesses of Dundee 1513 to 1885. Alexander Duncan of Lundie, 7th May 1689 (With great thanks to Major Howard Minnick for unearthing the following information).
"The followng information establishes that: Patrick Matthew and his Mother Agnes Duncan are in fact directly related to Admiral Adam Drummond of Megginch Castle through the Marriage of Anna Drummond to Alexander Duncan the 1st the Great Grandfather of Admiral Adam Duncan." (Howard Minnick, June 2016)
QUHILY, DAY ALEXANDER DUNCAN OF LUNDIE WAS ADMITTED A BURGESS AND BROTHER OF THE GUILD OF DUNDEE, BY REASON OF HIS FATHER'S PRIVILEGES.
The family to which ALEXANDER DUNCAN belonged, and which became in the 19th Century represented by the EARL OF CAMPERDOWN, can be traced in connection with Dundee from the beginning of the sixteenth century. Reference has been made to some of the earlier members of the family in the note to the entry of FINLAY DUNCAN, surgeon, in 1550 (vide page 29). From that date onwards the name appears frequently in the records of the Burgh. In 1590, WILLIAM DUNCAN, surgeon, was Dean of Guild, and in the following year was Bailie in Dundee, which office he filled till his death in 1608. From him descended that ALEXANDER DUNCAN, Laird of Lundie, whose name is entered here as claiming burgess ship through his father's privileges. He was the son of WILLIAM DUNCAN of Seasyde, a Bailie of Dundee in 1656, and was born in 1652. At an early age he took part in the municipal affairs of the Burgh, and having amassed and inherited a considerable fortune, he acquired the estate of Lundie from COLIN CAMPBELL, a scion of the family of ARGYLL. The exact date of this purchase is not known, but as CAMPBELL was retoured in Lundie on 23rd April, 1674, and DUNCAN was in possession of the estate in 1681 (vide Hay's Charters, Writs, and Documents of Dundee, page 101), it must have been between these dates. After the Revolution, when WILLIAM III. was securely seated on the throne, ALEXANDER DUNCAN was sent to London by the Council, in company with PROVOST FLETCHER, to ask aid from the KING to defray the cost of placing Dundee in a state of defence, and repairing the bulwarks. In the "Accompt of Expenses be the Town in ffortifying the same," the following item occurs:
"For the Provost and Baillie Duncan, yr expences in goeing to London in January, 1689, for presenting the grievances of the burgh to his Majestie, 1,626 lib."
His name may have been specially enrolled in the Lockit Book after his return, as a reward for his services on this occasion. Though long a public official, ALEXANDER DUNCAN died at a comparatively early age, as is shown by the inscription upon his monument in the Howff.
This was one of the most elaborate mural tablets in that place, although it has been suffered to fall to ruins. The remains of it are still visible, but in a very dilapidated condition, on the west wall of Howff, lair No. 15. The inscription is as follows:
Humo adjacenti conditur quod morti concesserunt Alexander
Duncan de Lundie, qui fato fundus est Aprilis die A. AE. C. 1696
aetat. 44 ; ejusque dilecta conjux Anna Drummond, unica filia Mri Joannis
Drummond de Megginch, quae decessit Aprilis die 1695, aet. 42. Nencon
eorundem liberi Gulielmus, Patricium, Christiana, et Anna, quibits parentes
superstitis erant. Idem alter Gulielmus, qui matri non vero pater
vixit, et Joannes, filuis natus secundus, qui mortem, obiit Julii die 1696, aetat. 20.
"Mausoleum. extruendum curavit Mr Alexander Duncan de Lundie, A. AE.C. 1718."
[In the adjacent ground is laid the mortal part of Alexander Duncan of Lundie, who died the day of April, in the year of the Christian Era, 1696, aged 44; and his beloved wife Anna Drummond, only daughter of Magister John Drummond of Megginch, who died the day of April, 1695, aged 42. Also their children, William, Patrick, Christian, and Anna, whom their parents survived. Also another William, who survived his mother but not his father; and John, their second son, who died the day of July, 1696, aged 20.
Mr Alexander Duncan of Lundie caused this monument to be erected in the year of the Christian Era, 1718.]
The name of ALEXANDER DUNCAN appears frequently both as principal and witness in the Register of Baptisms in Dundee. The following may be quoted, as it supplies the name of one of his sons who survived him, but whose name is not included in the published genealogy of the family:-
"1682, March 21st George, son to Alexr Duncan of Lundie and Anna Drummond. Witnesses George Broune, lait Provost, Adam Drummond of Megginch."
GEORGE DUNCAN was appointed Town Clerk of Dundee, after the deposition of SIR ALEXANDER WEDDERBURN, in 1716. Several of the descendants of ALEXANDER DUNCAN were enrolled as Burgesses at a later date.
At Megginch Castle during my Carse of Gowrie visit in March 2016.
Pictured from left to right: Dr Mike Sutton, Mrs Coral Bell (Carse of Gowrie Sustainability Group) Mr Andrew Lear (professional pomerist and leading ancient Scottish orchard expert). the Hon. Mrs Catherine Drummond-Herdman. (Photograph by Mr Ian Bell).
Gourdiehill House: The red stone mansion that was demolished shortly after Perth and Kinross District Council, Scotland, issued a demolition order on 14th March 1991.
This house and Matthew's orchards should have been preserved as a Scottish Heritage site, in the same way England has preserved Darwin's 'Down House' as a National Heritage house and museum.
Had Darwin's lies about the readership of Matthew's book not been credulously parroted as the gospel truth by Darwin scholars for 155 years, Scotland would have known and understood the significance of just who Matthew influenced who in turn influenced Darwin and Wallace through their acknowledged influencers.
Memorial stone to Patrick Matthew. made from a stone from the chimney of the demolished Gourdiehill Mansion.
Located on private land, south of Pow Burn, near the site of the demolished manor house.
Starting with John Duncan, historic hand copied details of the ownership of Gourdiehill estate show that it was in the hands of the Duncan family from earlier than 1587.
These Duncans are the clan from the East of Scotland's Aberdeanshire. Their family name came from the Clan Donnachaidh. As the website Scottish Clans explains a clan callled Duncan:
'...had emerged earlier in the 1300s from the Earls of Athole. The clan name came from Donnachadh Reamhar -‘Fat Duncan’. It was this chief who led the clan into the Battle of Bannockburn in 1314. Duncan’s great-grandson was Robert, and from these two men have descended not just the Duncans but the Robertsons also.
The predominant Duncans of the East of Scotland were the Duncans of Lundie in Forfarshire. Their extensive property included not just the barony of Lundie but also the estate of Gourdie. In 1764, George III’s physician, Sir William Duncan was created a baronet. The title was not hereditary. By 1795, Adam Duncan of Lundie had become Commander of the Fleet in the North Sea and Admiral of the Blue. With a glorious career of victories he was created Earl of Camperdown in 1797, and his son was made the first Earl of Camperdown in 1831.
The predominant Duncans of the East of Scotland were the Duncans of Lundie in Forfarshire. Their extensive property included not just the barony of Lundie but also the estate of Gourdie.
The land in old Forfarshire, then Aberdeanshire, now Perth and Kinross, referred to as the 'estate of gourdie' is larger (some 649 acres) became the parish of Caputh. The smaller Gourdiehill house and lands in the Carse of Gowrie, in Perth and Kinross district, so famously associated with Patrick Matthew passed to Peter and John Duncan, then to Robert Duncan. In 1676, it passed to Peter and James Duncan. Then to George and Andrew Duncan. Then to Francis Duncan and Catherine Duncan in 1726. Then to Alec Duncan (who might be Alexander Duncan 2nd, the father of 1st Viscount Admiral Duncan - see below). To Francis Duncan in 1739, Patrick Duncan in 1740, Francis Duncan and Andrew Duncan. It is noted on the hand written historic record of the deeds that Agnes Duncan had 11 brothers. There is more, but it is illegible on the photocopy that was kindly sent to me by Ian Hardie (Solicitor to the Patrick Matthew Trust).
I'm no genealogist - in fact, I find researching the topic most tedious - but it seems most likely, from what little I can spare of my mind to such matters, that Alec Duncan might possibly be Alexander Duncan 2nd of Lundie (born 1678 or else 1677), father of Alexander Duncan 3rd of Lundie - wo was grandfather of 1st Viscount Admiral Duncan (born 1731 died 1804). But the evidence that he is related to Patrick Matthew comes from elsewhere. Let me explain:
The date of the death of Alexander Duncan 2nd of Lundie is not currently 100 per cent known. However, if he is 'Alec' Duncan then the passing of ownership of Gourdiehill from him to Francis Duncan in 1739 - if done on his death would have made him 61 at the time. But that is not the best bet we have of when Alexander Duncan 2nd of Lundie died. If what is meant by contracting a 'bad habit of body' is what it was generally meant to mean in the 18th and 19th centuries then it is more likely his eligy suggests he died from some kind of obvious and progressive illness aged 42 (here) in 1719. See here for the eligy. The date of 1719 may well turn out to be most significant in establishing that Patrick Matthew was a relative of Admiral Lord Duncan, as I now move on to explain below.
Since the Matthew family archive in the National Records of Scotland has the following item: ".. page of court book of Alexander Duncan of Lundie, 7 July 1709", and since 'court book' is any magistrate's book of court sessions, and because Alexander Duncan 1st of Lundie was, Provost of Dundee between 1681 - 1685, it means, being dated in the next century as 1709, this is most likely a page from the court book of Alexander Duncan 2nd of Lundie who was Provost of Dundee from 1717-1719 - I write this, because I suspect there may, therefore, be a typo (or else a misinterpreted date) in the inventory of the archive and the actual date on the page of the court book is 1719, and not 1709. I suggest this is likely, because it is the only date that fits the known facts of when any Alexander Duncan of Lundie would have owned a court book. More so, since 1719 was the last year Alexander Duncan 2nd of Lundie served as Provost. and the most likely year of his death. Alexander Duncan 3rd of Seaside & Lundie (Father of the naval hero 1st Viscount Admiral Adam Duncan) was Provost between 1744 and 1747. So a date of 1709 (or most possible lkely real date of 1719) on a court book page could not correspond with his court book.
Research in the archive will determine the facts of the matter, or perhaps not, as the case may be.
The most telling question we must ask is: If the Alexander Duncan of Lundie in question was not a relative of Patrick Matthew's family, why on Earth would that 'court book page' of Provost Duncan's be in Patrick Matthew's family records?
A lock of hair found in a notebook of Bible scriptures by Andrew Duncan, (1698) is held in the archives of the records of the Matthew family of Gourdiehill, Perthshire in the National Records of Scotland. It seems highly possible that Andrew Duncan is a relative of Patrick Matthew. DNA tests are feasible on locks of historic hair. Known descendants of 1st Viscount Admiral Duncan are said to include British Politician Adam-Duncan Smith. If Adam Duncan-Smith (for example) is such a descendant, then he - or any other known descendant might, by agreeing to a DNA test for comparison with the lock of hair in Andrew Duncan's notebook. theoretically, be in a position to take us closer to confirming or not Major Minnick's hypothesis that Patrick Matthew and Admiral Duncan are related.
To recap: Alexander Duncan 2nd was the father of Alexander Duncan 3rd, who was the father of the British Naval hero 1st Viscount Admiral Duncan (here).
'Adam Duncan, 1st Viscount Duncan of Camperdown was born on 1 July 1731 at Dundee, Angus, Scotland. He was the son of Alexander Duncan, 3rd of Lundie and Helen Haldane. He married Henrietta Dundas, daughter of Rt. Hon. Robert Dundas of Arniston and Henrietta Carmichael, on 6 June 1777. He died on 4 August 1804 at age 73 at Corn Hill, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, from gout.
Children of Admiral Adam Duncan, 1st Viscount Duncan of Camperdown:
Hon. Adamina Duncan d. 1 Aug 1857
Children of Admiral Adam Duncan, 1st Viscount Duncan of Camperdown and Henrietta Dundas
Hon. unknown Duncan5 d. 7 Jan 1803
Hon. Mary Tufton Duncan+6 d. 24 May 1867
Hon. Jane Duncan+7 d. 7 Mar 1852
Hon. Henrietta Duncan+8 b. 17 May 1782, d. 14 May 1850
Robert Dundas Duncan-Haldane, 1st Earl of Camperdown of Lundie+1 b. 21 Mar 1785, d. 22 Dec 1859'
Further detals on this issue are forthcoming.
Patrick Matthew (1790 - 1874) was born on a farm called Rome (now demolished) close to the Palace of Scone.
On his father's death, Patrick Matthew left Edinburgh university aged 17 to take over the silvo-arable farm and house at Gourdiehill. The estate of 'Seaside' - owned by Alexander Duncan 3rd - father of Admiral Adam Duncan - can be seen below that of Patrick Matthew's Gourdie Hill estate.